Episode 55 Braai It Up
This episode of Level Up - Braai It Up (Episode 55 - recorded 27 September 2026) discusses South African heritage, recent news incidents, and community traditions.
Key Discussion Topics:
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Addressing Bullying and Social Conduct (0:30 - 18:48): The hosts share personal experiences with workplace/retail bullying and public confrontation. They emphasize the importance of remaining calm, documenting incidents discreetly (without provoking the aggressor), and seeking proper channels (like store management or authorities) rather than escalating conflicts. They also discuss the need for mindfulness during fasting periods.
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The Significance of Rooibos (19:56 - 30:35): The hosts highlight Rooibos tea as a South African heritage treasure. Six facts are presented:
- It only grows in the Cederberg region.
- It has a long history of usage by indigenous communities.
- The industry supports thousands of livelihoods.
- It is a major export with billions of cups consumed annually.
- It is caffeine-free and rich in unique antioxidants.
- It is legally classified as a tisane and continues to inspire global innovation.
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Heritage Day & Braai Culture (31:11 - 49:54): The hosts discuss how Heritage Day (observed on September 24) has become synonymous with the braai (barbecue). They define the braai as a central community experience that transcends cultural backgrounds.
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Sweet Corn Bake Recipe (38:19 - 45:00): Isa shares a cherished family recipe for a Sweet Corn Bake:
- Ingredients: 2 cans of cream-style sweet corn, 4–6 tbsp flour, 2 tsp baking powder, 1 egg, 1 tsp milk, and 2 tbsp butter.
- Method: Combine wet and dry ingredients (or vice versa per personal preference), place in an oven-safe dish, and bake at 180°C for approximately 45 minutes until golden brown.
Listeners also contributed various side dish ideas for a braai, including pumpkin fritters, chili bean salads, rotis, and avocado-mango salads.
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Episode 55: Braai It Up
Sunday 27 September 2026 / 15th Rabi al-Thani 1448AH 14h00 - 15h00 (CAT)
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Episode 55: Braai It Up
Sunday 27 September 2026 / 15th Rabi al-Thani 1448AH 14h00 - 15h00 (CAT)
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Episode 55: Braai It Up
Sunday 27 September 2026 / 15th Rabi al-Thani 1448AH 14h00 - 15h00 (CAT)
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To dear listeners, it's just past 200 p.m. right here in South Africa and it's our favorite day of the week, Yom Aad.
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It's the 15th day of Rabiai 14:48 ah.
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Alhamdulillah. and it corresponds to Sunday the 27th of September 2026.
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I'm Zad Plachis and with me are my co-hosts Nabiha and Issa Plachis.
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Welcome to Level Up where we listen, learn and grow inshallah with Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala's guidance and we break down the week's news and talk
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about what really matters to young Muslims today. A WhatsApp line is open. The number is 0727861548.
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You can call in on 0185472 or DM us on iilzar.com. That's Lov Z AOM
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M. We're on Instagram, Facebook, X, LinkedIn, YouTube, Tik Tok, Threads, Upscrolled, and we have a WhatsApp channel as well.
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So, today is the 27th of September. We just recently um celebrated or enjoyed our public holiday of the 24th of September which was Heritage Day.
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And after the break um Issa is going to share a recipe with us and we're going to be talking a little bit about bri or
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what we call bri day now um heritage day/bride.
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Um yeah, so send us uh some of the sides that you enjoy, some of the things that you like to do for Friday. Um let us
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know and maybe we can discuss it after the break, inshallah.
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And I'm also going to mention why Roy bus remains one of South Africa's greatest heritage treasures as well. Um
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I hope there's there's a lot that I wanted to get into with that. I'm not sure if I'm going to get too much into it today, but yes, I'm going to mention
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like six interesting facts about Roy Boss as well.
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I think it's it's also very interesting just, you know, talking about Roy Boss being a purely South African, proudly, you know, they say proudly South African um brand.
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Um yeah, so after the break in we'll get into that. So let's look at some of the top stories this week. So I think one of
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the major stories and it's still um you know going around as we as we speak because it's still on social media was
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earlier this week there was a incident of racism and Islamophobia uh that has been circulating on social
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media. You would have seen the videos um you would have seen there's an apology now as well from um the person who was
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spewing those words. and we're not going to get into it because I think everybody has their piece to say and they've said it um a lot on social media.
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Um but we had a an incident uh happen to us about 2 years ago. Not as um
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you know like such hurtful words but I mean I was hurt in the process because I was kind of assaulted. Um uh so we're
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going to play a clip of because I think it's important to note
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that um the person who videoed the video that went viral, they call him Mr. X or
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Mr. Exclusive Exclusive wholesalers. Um he said he was in panic mode and he videoed this and I think when it happens
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cuz people were like you know what happened before they were asking you know why did he do that? Why did he follow the guy? Why did he video? And
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when it's happening, you don't realize because you're in that situation. It's it's just like when you know like you've been hijacked and people say, "Oh, why
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didn't they do this or why didn't they do that?" A lot of people say, "Why didn't you do this when they're not in the situation?" And when you're in the situation, if you
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are one one who actually remembers to do everything, alhamdulillah, good for you.
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Sometimes a lot of us do get panicked and we don't do certain things or we do certain things that we regret after.
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Exactly. So I made a video straight after the incident. Right.
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But you were actually not making a video showing the person. You wanted to make a video to just quickly tell your feelings and to tell exactly what happened. and
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you weren't even going to put this person in until they actually decided to turn around and shove their face in your video.
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So, so, so that already I think that's where the this guy was also, you know, in a panic mode like he says, taking a
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video because he wants to express his feelings. Obviously, he was driving as well, which is not very safe to do. Um
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that's an whole separate issue but we're not get like I said not going to get into it but um I was also you know like after
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the incident you want to document it and raise awareness and I think that's what he was doing he was trying to raise awareness that this incident has
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happened this person is on the road you know and I was also trying to raise awareness that this guy was going to get
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into his car he has this already rage in a shopping center what is the rage that he's going to have when he's on the road.
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Exactly.
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And then he decides, oh, he wants to carry on with the uh his whatever
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problem he had with me. Um, which we'll we'll just put it out there. Someone mentioned afterwards I was wearing which
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I'm not wearing now because the chain broke, but I was wearing a chain with a Palestinian flag on it. Um it's actually
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the if you've seen you must have you might have seen videos or pictures of me wearing it. It has um a shape of the
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country with the flag colors in it. So they said that could have sparked you
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know his outrage because it was very um what's the word?
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Out of the blue basically it came out of nowhere like he just decided to be aggressive towards you like for no reason. for no for no reason.
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But but let me play the clip of of what I had to say after the incident. Um and
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then we're going to analyze that rather and say what did I do wrong or what should be done in a situation like this.
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Do you really want to put yourself up to that? But okay. Okay.
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So this just happened. Um it's today is the 26th of February. I think it's about 3:00 uh 3 or so. Um my family and I were
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at a checkers in Waterfall Corner and we were busy buying groceries and we had a
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gift card so they were trying to sort it out to make sure that you know the um it was reading properly or I don't know
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checking the amount or whatever it was but we were a bit delayed in the um till
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and the cashier told the gentleman that was behind us that we're still going to be some time and he can go to the the
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next till the gentleman decided well I don't know if he's a gentleman but you will decide at the end of this um decided that he wanted to stay in fact
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he actually left the till and went to go and look for something or get something extra while we were busy there so he had
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the time to take his stuff and move to another till and so we carried on
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everything was done they sorted out uh we paid and then we were about to leave and um the gentleman was behind me and
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he just huffs like so I ignored him cuz obviously he's looking for some sort of attention because he doesn't get any attention
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wherever he is at home or wherever I don't know. Anyway, so then um he pushes the trolley onto me
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uh and I'm like, "Okay." And then I leave it and I'm standing there with my
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son. I'm waiting for him to go and we outside. We not even in the vicinity of the till. We outside of the till. So
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where the till is, we standing there where you know where they would normally pack your groceries, but a little bit further. So we're not in anybody's way.
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And I'm waiting for for my son to go and then this guy just comes and he's like, "Move." And I'm like, "What's your
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problem?" And then he just goes on a whole rant. And um he says he's got places to be and he needs to uh to move.
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He needs to get his stuff done. And I'm like, "So then get your stuff done and then go. Why are you still here?" And he's like, "I need to pay." And blah
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blah blah blah. So then I said, "Okay, well that's just like privilege." So he he says to me, "Oh, why don't you just
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call me racist?" So I said, "I didn't call you a racist." So he says, "So then why don't you call me a racist?" And I'm like, "Do you want me to call you a
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racist?" And this guy is just like carrying on for himself.
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Anyway, he says to me that um I pushed you with the trolley and you didn't move out the way. So I said, "So why did you
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push the trolley onto me?" So he says to me, "I just nudged you with the trolley." So now he's admitted that he pushed the trolley onto me. Then he
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tells me he just nudged then like this guy is just like bonkers.
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Anyway, to cut a long story short, um this guy is like just full of nonsense
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and I follow him to to his car and I said, you know, like I did a little video to say that this is an incident
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that what what has happened. Um, and just like be on the lookout for this guy cuz he's like aggressive. Obviously, he's very aggressive. So, if he gets
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into his vehicle now, he drives on the road. He's he's driving a big Ford Everest. You'll see the video. Um, I can give you the details, his registration
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and whatever. Um, but he's obviously going to there's going to be road rage as well. So, he's going to if you have a
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small car, whatever car you have, he's going to push tie and push you over with his big Ford Everest.
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Anyway, uh yeah, so he says to me, um, oh, just post it on social media. So now he's given me consent to post it on
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social media. So if he comes back, he's given me consent. He's also he says, here's my registration. Don't you need my registration? So he's showed me his
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registration as well. So he's given me consent to post it on social media. Um, he's given me consent to video his car
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as well as his registration. Um, I don't know what his name because he's he didn't want to he didn't want to talk. I was trying to talk to him like a normal
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human being, but he just wanted to rant and rave and just shout at the whole world because the whole world is what's wrong. Then he's got a cheat to tell me
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that um I don't have sympathy for other customers. So I'm like, what are you talking about?
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I'm also a customer there at Checkers.
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We were busy trying to sort out something and I said to him, why didn't you go to another till? and he's like,
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"Oh, I already had my stuff there." So, I mean, so then what's the problem then?
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Then why didn't you just wait? You know, so anyway, I just wanted everybody to be on the lookout for this particular male.
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I will share a video and a picture of him. Um, shortly there is a picture on social media as well. And yeah, if you
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are in the Midland or Kyam area, I don't know how far he drives to, but obviously if he's doing his uh grocery shopping there at Checkers, he probably lives or
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works in the area. So, be on the lookout for this guy. He is aggressive. Um, I was calm in the situation. He was obviously looking for a fight. So, yeah.
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Anyway, so the model of the story is what we can learn from this is firstly, don't let other people bully you. This guy was bullying me obviously clearly.
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Secondly, that was assault by him even touching me without my consent with the trolley. Whether he touched me with his
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hand or he touched me with a trolley, it's assault, right? His intention was to hurt me. Right? He didn't say um
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please excuse me or anything before he pushed the trolley onto me. I didn't um not uh you know like respond to him with
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him asking nicely for me to move out of the way and I wasn't in his way in the first place. But anyway, so firstly
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um say no to bullying. Secondly, if there is an assault like this, go immediately to the store manager or to
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the security um center management or even get your local uh area police involved. Okay. And then thirdly, let's
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not perpetuate this because obviously this guy thinks that this behavior is okay and it's not okay. Not in any
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circumstances, not in 2024, not in any circumstances is this behavior okay, right? And we need to stop this because
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he will think it's okay. He can go do it elsewhere. Other people will think it's okay and it needs to end. Right? So we
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need to educate people. We need to show them that this behavior is not okay from the get- go. Bullying, assault, not
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okay. And just be on the lookout. Be aware of your surroundings and just stay safe. Anyway, I'm Zad and I still love Za.
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Alhamdulillah. After that, you still love Z A. So I think um you know if we just look at that and I think one of the
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the big flaws that I made was obviously I didn't follow him but because I was he turned around and he you know like started engaging
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prompted you so you basically like you said after that happened you wanted documented it and you you were videoing
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yourself and then he was not far along in front of you but he turned around and
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then he thought you were videoing him and then he obviously became more aggressive and then you know said you know follow me, check my car and see my
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registration and then obviously things escalated to that. But alhamdulillah you also managed to to keep your calm and um
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unfortunately two years later now another incident has occurred and this one you know apparently made racial
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racial slurs and again was bullying and um we we we mentioned you had you know
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your Palestinian um chain around you and um I'm not sure were you wearing a topi
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but I'm not sure but either way I mean this guy, you know, had it in, you know, a racist way. Um,
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but I I I think like I said, um, the following, um, what Mr. Exclusive did
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and what I did shouldn't be done in in terms of following the person because you don't know what more you could get yourself into.
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That's number one. Obviously, I'm I'm a journalist and we put ourselves in dangerous situations a lot of the time, unfortunately, but
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and things need to be documented, but like we also mentioned earlier about something that happened much earlier in the year, you don't document at the actual place.
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Yes. You document it. Yes. Yes.
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You take, you know, you take your video, but you don't document of like especially if there's minors involved, you don't document of that. you don't
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document off um um people's um personal information. Personal information.
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Yeah. But also um yeah, you know, document it. But if you are documenting it while it's happening, do it
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discreetly. So get somebody else that's not in the situation to video to record audio or something or in a lot of the
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cases like I could have done cuz we analyzing what I should have done or shouldn't have done is maybe get CCTV from the store cuz they should have been
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camelas that would also you know eliminate the fact that oh what happened we only saw your side of the story you
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know like um or they only saw his most exclusive side of the story what happened before that if he had a dash cam it would have showed the whole
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incident you know that type of thing. So I think we need to also make sure that when we documenting document discreetly
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um and also not provoke these people who clearly you can't reason with them
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right um we know that if they are um you know supporting the occupation then
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their mental capacity is not where it should be and you can't reason with them. So rather document it raise awareness. We're not saying don't raise.
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Yeah. Don't allow bullies to Don't allow bullying. Don't allow assault. Don't allow racial slurs.
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Document it. But keep yourself safe at all times. That's the most important thing.
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And then another thing that you mentioned is be understanding. Um like you mentioned um we read that this
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person was uh fasting and we also fast and we also you know not to to downplay anything but also raise awareness of how
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you are when you are fasting cuz now you know people are uh recording this and have recorded this for other people but they could be doing the same to you. So
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you when you are fasting be aware of yourself and be aware of what you say and how you conduct yourself because
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people will be um not following us but looking at us and and saying oh look at these
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and and we know that um we mustn't as Muslims we mustn't make decisions or do things out of haste out of anger. If we
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we rather take ourselves out of the situation make wudoo and then think clearly. So that also needs to we always
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need to make sure that we follow the teachings of our beloved prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam and
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also what the Quran tells us that we need to do. Um if we keep that in mind then and we're doing things for the
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pleasure of Allah then inshallah we will um you know show people that how Islam really is.
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Amen.
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If you would like to join the conversation, our sub line is 0727861548
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or you can call in on 0185472 or you can even DM us on.com
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on social media. That's Lov Z A M. Let's go for a break and when we get back we
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will be talking about heritage of Roy bus and a few side dishes for your bri
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and I'll be sharing a sweet corn bake recipe inshallah tutoring mentoring homeschool assistance
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excellence and welcome back to Level Up. If you've
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But right now, we'll be talking about heritage of Royos and a few side dishes for your bri. I'll be sharing a sweet corn bake recipe inshallah.
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If you would like to join the conversation, our subline is open. The number is 0727861548
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Yes. So we're going to tell you why Royos remains one of South Africa's greatest heritage treasures. Now you
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know in every September South Africans celebrate traditions that define the nation and few South African products
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embody this journey quite like Royos grown nowhere else in the world.
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Alhamdulillah, Roy has evolved from a shrub in the Cedar Cedarberg Mountains to one of South Africa's most
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recognizable exports and we have quite a few brands here in South Africa that are established as household names that brings communities together.
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And then this year's heritage month theme, re-imagine our heritage institutions for a new era, encourage
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South Africans to celebrate the country's cultural legacy while recognizing how heritage continues to
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innovate and shape the future. I'm sure will have something to say about that.
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We'll get back to that, but let me first start off by telling you six fascinating facts about Royos.
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One, it grows nowhere else on Earth.
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Authentic Royos is indigenous to South Africa and only grows naturally in the Cedberg and surrounding regions of the Western and Northern Cape.
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Royos benefits from formal geographical indication protection and is recognized as a protection designation of origin
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under the EU system. Meaning it can only be be called Royos if it comes from this defined production area in South Africa.
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You know how they always say if it's not called Roy Boss it's not from here. What was that story anyway? So, you know, if
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it's if it's only grown here in the Cedarberg region, it's it should be called Roy Boss. Other other than that, it should be called something else.
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What? Like red tea or something or uncaffeinated tea.
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Anyway, number two, it has been enjoyed for centuries. Long before commercial
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farming, indigenous koisan communities harvested wild royos as a refreshing herbal infusion hundreds of years ago.
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So you know that it came a long long time ago.
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Then uh Dutch settlers adopted it as an alternative to imported tea. Botonist
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Carl Thunberg documented the plant as early as 1772 as an affordable alternative, helping establish it as a household staple.
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Isn't that interesting?
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Okay, so number three, it supports South African livelihoods. The Royos industry
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employs around 8,000 people through farming, processing, packaging,
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distribution, and exports, making it a significant contributor to the economy.
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The industrywide access and benefit sharing agreement is the first of its kind globally with 42.7
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million rand shared with traditional knowledge holders between 2019 and 2024.
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SH number four billions of cups are enjoyed
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every year. In 1904, a Russian immigrant named Benjamin Ginsburg, I was about to say Kinsburg,
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Ginsburg recognized its commercial potential, becoming the first exporter of Royos and laying the foundations for the thriving modern industry.
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Royos is now exported to more than 50 countries with exports reaching approximately
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10,930 tons for the first time in 2025 and more than 10 billion cups of Royos
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are consumed worldwide or were consumed worldwide in 2023.
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Number five, it is a healthy option.
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Yes, definitely. This is what we give Issa to drink and every other child. And when we feeling like we shouldn't have any caffeine, we definitely have Royos.
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So, let me tell you more. Unlike traditional teas and coffees, Royos contains no caffeine, making it suitable
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throughout the day for the whole family to enjoy. So, like we said, you can give your young ones and you can have it after 12. I make a rule of not having
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caffeine before I mean after 12. So if you want if I feel like I need tea then I have Royos after 12.
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Royos is also the world's only known natural source of aspathin a rare antioxidant being studied for its
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potential health supporting properties.
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Research suggests royos may support h heart health, help combat oxidative
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stress, assist healthy blood sugar regulation, and promote overall well-being, although further human studies continue.
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So obviously they they doing more studies with royos and maybe they'll find more benefits inshallah or they
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might find something wrong with it. We we don't know. And the last fact, Royos continues to evolve. Royos is legally a
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tisane. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right. It's t i s a n e. It is a botanical drink. It's not a tea. But it
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continues to carve out a global niche in diverse formats including readyto drink beverages, skin care ingredients,
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functional foods, and even mixology in the hospitality sector.
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We can make mocktails from that. Just letting you know. And then um brands in the Royos industry continue to bring new
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products to the market, including flavored Royos options. and Royos continues to inspire innovation while remaining true to South African roots.
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I'm going to tell you more about the products, but I just want to let you know like I I I learned about this Tusane thing. It's a botanical drink and
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they say it's not a tea. It's just like how you know when someone says um when you're not feeling well then you have like um ginger tea. So that's actually
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not tea. It's actually tisane a botanical drink or tasane. I don't know how you pronounce that. But basically,
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you're taking hot water and you're taking a herb or fruit or vegetable or something and putting in the hot water
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and you're boiling it and you're giving off those natural um flavors and natural um elements into a a drink format.
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Alhamdulillah you know we should be proud and you know we we always talk about the cradle of humankind but we don't realize that everything has
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started here in Africa and there again we see that something as simple as royos
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which is now you know like on a global scale like you say people call it red tea in other countries or um you know
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it's been used in um food it's been used in beauty products. It's, you know, been been used in a lot of other things, but
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it's it's only grown here in the Cedarberg region, like you said.
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Alhamdulillah. And um you know, we must remember that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has made it so that it only grows here.
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He could have made it that it grows anywhere else in the world, but we so blessed that it only grows here and that
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you know it creates so many jobs. Like you said, it's been used for so many different things. It's been used as like
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you said, it's a it's a uncaffeinated drink. It's um what's the word? It's
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natural. It anybody can drink it from all ages. Like you said, Issa can drink it. Um, you said you drink uh
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caffeinated drinks before 12 years old, but he not 12 years old, 12:00 a.m. I mean P.M.
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Yeah. 12 12 p.m. That's what I wanted to get at. That um you know, this drink can be not only had before 12 or after 12.
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It can also be had by 12 year olds or younger. That's that's what what I was going to say, but I just I just tripped
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over my own self here. But alhamdulillah, you know, we have a rich heritage and we have so many things here
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in South Africa that we should be proud of that we, you know, like can share with the world. And I think that is one
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of the reasons why there were so many people that wanted to um take this land for themselves. It makes makes you
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wonder that you know there's so many I mean we had gold we have diamonds we have royos
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um the beautiful scenery mashallah subhan allah um there's so many things
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and we should be grateful for for living here for for being here and uh those of
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you that who have left um sorry that you we're sorry we're sorry that you have left and we I know that you pine to come back to South
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Africa and inshallah one day you will come back to this beautiful land in I mean okay so alhamdulillah yes the
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cradle of humankind the cradle of mankind and heritage so I spoke about the the facts about heritage um the roy
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boss as a heritage and I wanted to tell you you know the the the surprising new life of um Roy boss around the world but
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um let's see if we can come back to that because Issa I mentioned some cool bryside dishes and a recipe. So I don't
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want that to you know like to miss out on that our listeners to miss out on that. How about we go back go back to
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him first and then see if I can you know continue.
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Okay. So before we get into that I think um we need to explain to the listeners who are not here in South Africa.
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Oh yes definitely. Um firstly we have a public holiday uh which was on Thursday the 24th of September. It started in
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1995 if I'm not mistaken and it's called heritage day right where we obviously um
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celebrate different heritages here in South Africa because as people know that South Africa is a melting pot of
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cultures. So you know all different types of cultures live here in South Africa. Not one type. Not everyone is a
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certain color. Not everyone is a certain has certain features and not everyone has the same um background. We all have different backgrounds.
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But we all part of one race and that's the human race. Okay.
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Okay. But uh yes. So, so here and over the years it's obviously developed and and we celebrate what's a South African
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heritage because we have become so intertwined. I mean um not only Malays make kistas, not only Indians make
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curries, you know, like it it started out that way because we brought the different cultures in, but not only
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Muslims eat halal, you know, like there's there's so many things that are intertwined. That is actually such a shocker for me cuz when we go to these
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events and then I've got my halal meal, you know, um in this strictly halal meal, they have it, you know, covered up
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and then they say this is halal. And then I see someone next to me and they've ordered also and I'm like, "Oh, okay. I didn't know you're Muslim." And
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then this lady says, "No, I'm not Muslim. I just um I really like the whole dishes and I I feel it it it it
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goes well with my culture and um I like the the properties of it. You know what she was trying to say was basically she
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likes the way that you know the the the basically the the halal permissible way that we use things. Now a lot of
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ignorant people don't really realize that what halal actually is and what it does for your body and why we have it.
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And then there are a few who actually alhamdulillah know that and then they stick to that.
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Alhamdulillah. But you're still lucky that um you have yours covered because sometimes I go to these events and they
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have halal station and everybody decides they want to eat it because it looks better, it smells better, it tastes
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better than the food that they have. And then I'm left trying to scavenge around there trying to get whatever is left
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over. But uh yeah, so basically we we've become we've have now a South African
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culture. Um and people know South Africa for different things. There's different I mean um in motorsport there's spinning you know it's it's known worldwide.
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Oh did that arrive from South Africa? Yeah.
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Okay. Um, so there's a lot of things that have come out of South Africa besides just food and you know the way
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we look and the way we talk. Um, and it's become almost like we s we celebrating a South African heritage.
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And in 2005, if I'm not mistaken, um, we decided or somebody decided that we should call it Pride Day instead of
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heritage day. So it's heritage day/ Friday. It's not uh it hasn't changed.
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It's just that it's something that's synonymous with South Africans is brying.
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And it's not to to to downplay the actual um reason why we observe Heritage Day.
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You know, it's because, you know, like I said, Heritage Day is because the fact that we all have come from different backgrounds and we're here living in
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South Africa and you know, we all want to be, like you said, one human race. So now we are we're also trying to find a
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common South African thing and a a common South African thing is tubry.
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Yeah. And it doesn't it doesn't matter like like you say what culture you are, what color you are, what race you are,
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it um it boils down to the fact that brine, which people overseas call a a barbecue. Um
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but South Africans would say that's not the same.
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It's not the same because we use different spices. we we do it differently. So, we use a um mostly
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charcoal and it's over like a steel container.
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You lots of people know what's a bri um a barbecue. So, I'm not going to go into that. But basically,
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um I think the whole thing of bri day is not only just, you know, like brying the meat and having the lovely dishes which
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side dishes which Issa is going to mention now. And one of the recipes that he's tried himself um it's the fact that you're getting
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together as a family and today is a Sunday a Sunday afternoon. There might be people that's Brian wild listening to us right now.
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Nice. Um, and you know, it's it's having that um, you know, family environment or
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even if you go out and you have a um, you know, you have it in in a park, you have a Brian in a park, there's
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always people sharing with each other, you know, like, oh, come and have here's a a hot dog roll for you. Um, you know,
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burst roll or whatever it is. So, it's that sense of community, that sense of, you know, taking a step back. Um, also,
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you know, people always say that it's time for the the the ladies to not be in the kitchen, but they're actually making all the side dishes, which is much more
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than or marinating the meat beforehand.
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So, there's still a lot of work that goes into it. Um, but then, you know, you have a lot of conversations. We've spoken about this before, what
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conversations people have around the bri. And I think it's it's it's important as a community to connect
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outside of on social media, just clicking and liking and looking at other people's pictures of the bri, actually having a bri. And it's costly obviously
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cuz it's a lot of meat involved. But I mean, if you get together as a family and you share the costs, um it's a nice
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experience. And yeah, I don't want to get into much detail. Issa, you so so basically why you were you you
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were, you know, setting this up was because you wanted to say that with a bride with the meat there is the side
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dishes and sometimes that takes center stage to the meat because you have like these really awesome salads and you have
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these bakes and you have these desserts that you must have afterwards. but you know things that you have with the bri
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with the meat. So Issa um are you going to give us a recipe or you going to tell us the different dishes you can have first?
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Um so I'm going to go straight into the recipe.
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So then you're going straight into a recipe. Well actually an article recipe. An article recipe written by whom?
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By Zad Pl.
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Oh okay. So, Zad Platis did an article recipe on a sweet corn bake that Issa is going to read out the recipe for. And a
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sweet corn bake is one of our favorite side dishes along with um potato salad
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to have at a bri. And I'm not talking an over-the-top potato salad with apples and boiled eggs and everything in
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it. I'm just talking a normal potato uh boiled until it's soft with some mayonnaise and maybe a little bit of like white mixed herb spice in it.
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Yeah. So, um just to give you a bit of context, this recipe was not actually mine. Um it was my late mother may Allah
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grant her Jonath um she used to make it whenever we used to have a bri and I just love it and I
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think we've grown up loving it in our family here we've grown up loving it in our family yes definitely over these many years
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and we want to share this with everyone if you haven't already seen the recipe on our website i love.com or you haven't
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tried it you don't even know what a sweet corn bake is because I don't think a lot of people know what it is until they actually try it. And then
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a lot of people actually think there's cheese involved in it. There has been some um substitutions over the years that you know people now you're saying
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it's you know it's from your your late mother. So over the years people have and and that was a long time ago long
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long time ago. So over the years people have made substitutions. They've made it more savory like they've put more cheese. They've put more chilies or
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whatever. They've put chilies actually in it or they've made it like a lagan something. Yes.
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Yes. So, yes, this is definitely one of our favorite side dishes like I said along with a potato bake. Um you can uh
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call in or message us after the show to on our social media pages rather to um tell us what's your favorite side dishes
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to have with a bri. But right now, Issa is dying to tell you about this recipe of the sweet corn bake.
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Yes. So, the sweet corn bake recipe. So, let's start at the beginning of it. So, the preparation time is 5 minutes.
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Cooking time is 45 minutes. Total time is 50 minutes. Servings is 6 to 8
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people. Uh the recipe credits is zad plot ives a day.com. The ingredients is two cans of sweet corn.
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We prefer cool for the creamness, four heap tablespoons of flour, two heap
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teaspoon of baking powder, one egg, one teaspoon of milk, 2 tbsp of butter. Um,
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the method is crack the egg into a bowl, add the milk to the bowl with the egg
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and whisk it. Add the flour and baking powder to the bowl. Whisk with the
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whisked egg. Mix the flour, baking powder, and whisk egg together. Add the
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butter to the bowl. You can melt the butter before but it is not necessary as it will melt while baking.
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Add the sweet corn to the bowl. Mix all the ingredients together. Don't worry if
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there are few lumps of butter. Preheat the oven to 90°
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C. Place the mixture into an oven safe dish. Parex or Marinx
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uh dish. Uh place the dish into the oven and bring the temperature temperature
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down to 180° C. Bake for 45 minutes or until the surface is golden brown. Enjoy this dish as a delicious side at a bry.
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So, the other thing that I wanted to say was that
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um I usually put the dry stuff first
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um the dry ingredients first into the bowl and then the wet stuff. So then you can use so there's not too many spoons or dishes to use.
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Okay. So Issa has now taken over the responsibility of making the sweet corn bake in the house and he has his method
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and he might write a article recipe like he says um of his method or like Nabia
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also mentioned he might start adding other ingredients to it as well. So he might have a a twist on it. It might be a peppermint crisp tart sweet corn bake.
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No, please.
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We we we like to, you know, test boundaries and and and make be like adventurous in cooking and stuff, but I
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mean, I think that's a bit too much, you know. I like how he said he likes to put the dry ingredients first. So,
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basically, um, Zad, your recipe was like a quick one and to do it all in one, like one dish and one, you know, like to
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make as little work as possible because you don't want to do the washing up afterwards. But Isa wants to do it the proper way where he does the dry
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ingredients first and then he mixes it in a bowl and puts the the the Is that what you're doing? What you're saying?
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And then the wet stuff. Yeah. And I also wanted to add in the fact that um I like to actually add in two extra um heaped
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uh tablespoons of flour. So I think you had what what was it? Four tablespoons of flour. I actually like to make it six
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tablespoons of flour just to give it more of a um bake taste instead of, you know, like a
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I don't know. I found when I do it, I I like to do it that way. So, I'm just letting you know. So, you can you can make your own um substitutions with it.
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You can add and and and and subtract as you see fit, you know, as you make your your your recipe.
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Okay. So, um, some people have been sending in their sides that they like. Oh, alhamdulillah. That's awesome.
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So, um, we've got pumpkin fritters.
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Pumpkin fritters. Okay, that's nice. So, that's something you like to have with a bride. Pumpkin fritters. Okay. Um, I
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have tried it once, I'm sure. Um, with the cinnamon, was it the cinnamon kind of a flavor? I know we used to try before we had the the the the sweet corn
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bake. We sometimes used to make um sweet corn fritters. People used to always ask me, "Is that savory or is that sweet?" And I'm like, "Uh, I don't know. Would
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you have it as a savory?" But it is kind of sweet cuz it doesn't have chilies in it. Like used to I used to make it like how I learned on your mother's cookbook
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um without the chilies. It had like cinnamon and sweet corn with it. So maybe this is just you know a different taste take on it with the pumpkin.
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Yeah. Another one as you're talking about chili is a chili bean salad.
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Okay. So that I'm assuming is baked beans. Baked beans with like lots of chilies.
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I think some people put other beans as well. Oh, okay.
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Um with it, but I know like that's that's the like hot salad, but they make
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a um like a three bean salad as well, the cold one.
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Oh yes. Um, and sometimes they put pasta as well with it.
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I know pasta salads are a lot of um, you know, like a good side dishes a lot of people like to have. Did anyone send it that?
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Um, no. They But they did say roti. They say it's perfect for scooping up salads or sauces. Roti.
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Yeah, roti. Roti with your bri. Yeah.
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Oh, I suppose you know like you when you have like a a a um what's this? a quarter chicken tikka.
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You have it with roti or naan, but we never actually think about having it chicken tikka is made over of fire. So,
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yes, cuz you know, people always have what was what's it? Garlic bread or cheesy garlic bread. That's always nice to have.
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So, roti, I suppose that makes sense.
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And the fritters, maybe not just pumpkin. Maybe you can make something else. And the pasta salad. Yes, definitely. Those can be hot or cold.
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Yeah. Another one is pap and chaka laka.
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Papaka laka. Okay. Yes, that definitely is a good um thing to have with a bride. Definitely.
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And this one um I've never heard of before, but it sounds nice. It's avocado and mango salad.
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Oh yes, that definitely sounds nice. That's something I would love to try.
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Avocado and mango. And that's two South African. Is avocado South African?
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Yeah, mango is definitely. But is a avocado? Well, it's grown. Both are grown here.
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So, with it originates from South Africa, it's it's check. Yes. So, I've never had a mango and avocado salad. I
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would like to try that with, you know, meat and stuff. But keep them coming in.
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Um, one one more. Oh, one more.
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Bryis, I think that's like a toasted uh sandwiches, isn't it? Yeah, like cheese and tomato and onion.
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um toast like a toasted cheese sandwich basically but on a bri.
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I don't usually have toasted cheese or like you say with the onions and tomatoes and stuff with a bri but I mean it's nice to try these sides.
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Alhamdulillah for sending that through and keep sending them through via social media.
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We can share it and mention it maybe inshallah in next episodes. But yes, once again, if you would like to join
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the conversation during the week, you can do so on our social media pages at.com.
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That's I l o v z a m. We are on Instagram, Facebook, x, LinkedIn, YouTube, Tik Tok, threads, and
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upcrolled. Oh, and a WhatsApp channel as well. You are welcome to read the articles on our website as well as listen, watch, and read the past episodes on our website ioveza.com.
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And if you've missed any of the other Level Up episodes or you'd like to just go back and listen to it, you are welcome to do so on the Radio Islam
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International SoundCloud to our dear listeners for joining us on this lovely Sunday, September Sunday
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afternoon. Alhamdulillah. Please join us every Sunday right here on Radio Islam International from 2 to 3:00 p.m.
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Inshallah. From myself, Nabiha, from Isa, and from Zad, enjoy your Sunday.
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Enjoy the rest of September. Wish you all the best for the new month inshallah. And we wish you a wonderful week ahead inshallah.
